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. >> the pbs section of the show -- >> now you are insulting the audience. >> the 9 people in the world who care about the stuff. >> remember, it took quite a while to figure out exactly what had happened, and we still may not know everything, in 9/11. these guys were trained, with intelligence had fallen apart. it took us a very long time realize even who these people were. some of the original reports were wrong. >> "deception," the word charles used. >> charles has conspiracy. pretty lousy one, if you are contradicted within hours. the think tank commandos and gucci guerrillas populated city. it reminds me of the genius of norman schwarzkopf, another army general who did lead the troops into a successful venture and try and in the persian gulf war -- triumphed in the persian gulf war. he was getting all this praise from fawning flatteries. he said, no, it does not take courage to order men into battle. it takes courage to go into battle. what we're talking about -- >> no, we are -- the israelis are not asking the u.s. to go to war. they are simply saying that if you are not interested in
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